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1.04 -> 2.11

Spoby on Location

Spoby on the Hastings’ Couch

Spaleb Friendship Post

Toby + asking if Spencer is okay.

Did you see Spobsy's gifset tags that said it was ooc for Toby not to step in in 3B? What do you think?
Anonymous

cavanaughspencer:

sparklebubbleblonde:

Well, now I looked haha. But I don’t know. I’ve always been caught between two head canons that either Toby was so scared if he stepped in he’d make Spencer’s life even worse or endanger her further, OR he only knows the big details like “she saw a dead body that looked like you” & “she is now in radley”. Like he avoids thinking about it too much because the guilt will consume him. It isn’t OOC for him either, who has a tendency to run when life gets hard.

But, I mean anyone who reads this tell me, am I the only one who notices Toby gets this really awful look on his face, like so guilty, and his tone completely changes too when 3B comes up. Like even beyond the scene in the motel when he cried (and when she was waltzing towards him later he had the most guilty expression on his face), in 4x03 he was talking and then once Spencer implied going into Radley, his expression changed and his tone was completely different when he said “You’d go back there?” And in 4x12 when Spencer mention finding his dead body, he changed the subject quickly, wanting to get off that topic and in 4x14 he was listing off people at Radley and then Spencer listed herself and his expression once again changed and then he changed the subject. I’m just saying, I think it’s intentional. I thought before they were going to revisit it later and like he never asks and she never tells because its like an elephant in the room but I thought they’d talk in 4B and now it seems almost too late to talk about it but it kind of still seems like they’re leading up to it… .I don’t know, maybe I’m crazy.

Or maybe Toby believed she was strong enough(everyone seems to think Spencer’s unbreakable) to handle everything in 3B so when he was wrong it shocked him or maybe he just hated himself so much he fell off the face of the earth.

I honestly think he knew him stepping in back then could worsen things for her. In Radley it could make her worse. I think if she’d been in longer, he would have.

I also believe that he does feel a lot of guilt which is why his face changes whenever Radley is brought up. And a part of me believes Spencer does want to discuss it, but he’s still reluctant because of that.

I don’t know if it’s written that way, or that’s Keegan.

I wish it wasn’t such a friggen dropped storyline. Like, she’s out of a mental asylum for, what? No more than like 3 days in 4x01 and she’s all dandy, just like before, no lingering effects of seeing her boyfriend’s dead body and being committed.

But like it could have been so beautiful for them to talk about what she went through and what he was doing in that time (what was he doing?) and him describing his reaction when he found out she was in Radley and how Marion was there for depression and that could have tied Momma into the storyline and then they could have had the Marion/Radley/Bethany/Mrs D. storyline.

I mean, like Toby, who believed his mother killed herself inside Radley wouldn’t worry that a). Spencer had lingering depression or b). that Radley was unsafe.

I mean, this is only after he joined the -A team to protect her. It’s not like he doesn’t take her safety seriously.

Did you see Spobsy's gifset tags that said it was ooc for Toby not to step in in 3B? What do you think?
Anonymous

Well, now I looked haha. But I don’t know. I’ve always been caught between two head canons that either Toby was so scared if he stepped in he’d make Spencer’s life even worse or endanger her further, OR he only knows the big details like “she saw a dead body that looked like you” & “she is now in radley”. Like he avoids thinking about it too much because the guilt will consume him. It isn’t OOC for him either, who has a tendency to run when life gets hard.

But, I mean anyone who reads this tell me, am I the only one who notices Toby gets this really awful look on his face, like so guilty, and his tone completely changes too when 3B comes up. Like even beyond the scene in the motel when he cried (and when she was waltzing towards him later he had the most guilty expression on his face), in 4x03 he was talking and then once Spencer implied going into Radley, his expression changed and his tone was completely different when he said “You’d go back there?” And in 4x12 when Spencer mention finding his dead body, he changed the subject quickly, wanting to get off that topic and in 4x14 he was listing off people at Radley and then Spencer listed herself and his expression once again changed and then he changed the subject. I’m just saying, I think it’s intentional. I thought before they were going to revisit it later and like he never asks and she never tells because its like an elephant in the room but I thought they’d talk in 4B and now it seems almost too late to talk about it but it kind of still seems like they’re leading up to it… .I don’t know, maybe I’m crazy.

Or maybe Toby believed she was strong enough(everyone seems to think Spencer’s unbreakable) to handle everything in 3B so when he was wrong it shocked him or maybe he just hated himself so much he fell off the face of the earth.

cavanaughspencer:

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sparklebubbleblonde reblogged your post sparklebubbleblonde reblogged your po… and added:

nothing against the other actor but I feel like they would have probably made Toby more creepy with him, as opposed to

Probably. He did have a bit of the stud face. Noel Kahn types. I love how adorable Keegan looks. He has a very innocent face, a puppy dog face and very honest eyes. They just make him perfect for the character.

They might have gone with the book Toby if they didn’t recast. 

Hahaha I can’t imagine Keegan’s Toby playing Book Toby at all.

cavanaughspencer:

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I’m sorry but I’m really happy they recasted.

same tbh

otherwise we wouldn’t have spoby to fangirl over. 

nothing against the other actor but I feel like they would have probably made Toby more creepy with him, as opposed to Keegan.

Plus Treegan is why Spoby exists sooooo haha

cavanaughspencer:

fake toby and jenna!!!

omg the first spoby not spoby scene!

I’m sorry but I’m really happy they recasted.